Flirting for Asian Guys: Heather Ends Her Seduction Bootcamp, Part 2

by Heather · 18 comments

JT Tran lecturing on dating coaching

JT Tran lecturing on dating coaching

Hey there! Heather here with a review on the ABCs of Attraction dating coaching bootcamp– my take on the flirting and socialization workshop for Asian men from the female perspective (read Part 1 here)!

When I first got to the bootcamp, I was surprised to see that there were five students (four Asian guys and one Caucasian man) there and none of them ugly! In fact, they were all pretty attractive, well dressed, had great hygeine (no teeth-brushing for me!) and I thought one of them was really cute and totally looked like the kind of Asian guy I would go for (although I wouldn’t because that would be unprofessional).

It totally shattered my preconceptions about only unattractive, dirty, disgusting old men attending dating coaching bootcamps.

The lecture itself was a pleasant experience in which I even learned a thing or two. I expected to get bored or sleazed out by all the seduction, sexist talk so I brought a Nintendo DS to occupy my ADHD-riddled mind, but I ended up being completely captivated throughout each session!

During the lecture, I was called upon to role-play being a pretty girl so the students could apply what they learned by practice walking up to me, striking up a conversation, and flirting with me as they would in a real life setting.

JT Tran and Sarah Ann reassured me that they wouldn’t have grabby hands and touch me inappropriately, but trusted them enough to know that they wouldn’t. The most contact I received was a soft touch on the shoulder or a handshake, as detailed in the ABCs of Attraction syllabus (the famous Kino Turn).

Sarah Ann Fixes a Student's Asian Hair

Sarah Ann Fixes a Student's Asian Hair

I really enjoyed listening to the lecture because it was more than just a talk on seduction and flirting for Asian guys, it was practical and informational but also empirical: the studies, statistics and graphs that were presented tickled my inner nerd (which surfaces fairly easily). With these and other materials in the ABCs’ syllabus, it was actually very easy to keep up with everything being taught and I enjoyed every minute of it.

There were also practical drills and exercises that the guys were put through to practice their skills. We pointed out bad habits and gave them positive, constructive feedback (like Sarah showing a student how to style Asian hair).

To be honest, going in-field to the clubs made me somewhat nervous.

As a small-town Mormon girl from Utah, I had never even been to a legitimate club before, let alone with students looking to me to wing them in the seduction and flirting process. I was probably just as tense as the guys were!

The students, though, made me feel a lot better. I got to know each of them a little better as I scouted sets for them to talk to. One of them was familiar with my hometown and we had fun reminiscing about it with all its quirks and whatnot.

Eventually, we would all piece together a fragmented conversation in-between running up to girls, running into each other and witnessing just why JT is called “The Asian Playboy” (and that moniker was definitely earned)!

Some of the debriefs were hard to watch.

Asian student romantically connecting with a white woman

Asian student romantically connecting with a white woman

On the second night, the most stressful night of the bootcamp, while one student successfully flirted with and romantically connected with a white woman, another one of the students- who had a tough time pushing past his anxiety and fear- felt the wrath that is JT’s infamous drill sergeant mode.

Maybe it was my motherly instinct, but I wanted to tell him that it was fine and that he was a good person and that everything would be okay. Of course, that was what he wanted to hear but that was not what he NEEDED to hear. 

JT was giving him what he needed to “man up”, even though he didn’t want it. I went home exhausted and eager to clean up where we left off that night.

During the last night there, we all were content to sit on one of the couches and just talk to each other like the old friends we had become.

It hit home that this would be the last night to spend so much time with each other, despite how hard and frustrating the weekend had been. We talked, shared tidbits about ourselves and generally just enjoyed everyone’s company.

While the objective for the night was being completed, we all felt that it was time to chill, especially after the harrowing experience of the previous night. This was a very much a team bonding experience.

It was the best night of the three and I think everyone had a great time.

Bonds between student and teacher last a lifetime

Bonds between student and teacher last a lifetime

Many people are confused about what I do. They’re confused about my line of work and definitely have the wrong impression.

Some people accuse me of promoting date rape while others ask if I like “making Asian man-whores”.

I’ll be 100% honest when I say I love my job and this bootcamp helped me realize just how those misconceptions people have about ABCs of Attraction are completely and utterly wrong!

The ABCs of Attraction is not your typical “seduction” company. I hate that our business is in the “pick up artist” community and how it’s perceived by other people because it’s total misconception because it is not actually reflective of JT”s company which is trying to promote a holistic, healthy, and positive image and lifestyle for Asian men. It really is more about dating coaching and teaching Asian men how to be better, more confident men.

They do not promote mistreating women emotionally or physically, they do not promote “man-whoring” and they do not promote sexism. What I saw at this bootcamp were nice, attractive guys with great personalities, steady jobs or careers and interesting lives, which is the total opposite of what I expected.

I didn’t just help students – I helped friends.

I was so sad that I wouldn’t see these guys on a daily basis anymore that I went home and cried in frustration. While that may be due to the long hours and interrupted sleep pattern, I know that I look forward to hearing about their successes because it means talking to these awesome guys once again (and ladies, they’re single!).

I sincerely hope, for any guy out there contemplating taking a bootcamp from ABCs of Attraction, that this has helped you form an opinion about the workshop. It will be tough. It will be stressful. You will be frustrated and success will not come instantly for you.

But it’s worth it.

I try to keep up with the guys from my bootcamp and I am almost giddy with pride in seeing their success. I am empathetic with frustration when I see them struggle. I know what they are doing is hard and I know that self-improvement doesn’t come easy, but I hope they know that it’s imperative they do this for themselves and their love life.

I want to see each and every one of them attain their goals with women, just like every ABCs student, alumni and Asian man.

Even though I am a woman, I fully support ABCs of Attraction.

Or maybe it’s BECAUSE I’m a woman that I more than fully support the ABCs because I know what it can do for Asian and non-Asian men alike.

I love knowing that I am not only helping Asian men find love but the girls like me, the girls that love Asian men, find good, confident, Asian men who love them.

If I can even be a small part in helping an Asian man form a healthy, happy relationship with a lucky lady when he otherwise would not have had the tools to do so, then I have fulfilled my goal as a girl who supports Asian men.

{ 18 comments… read them below or add one }

Alice Zindagi Reilly August 15, 2011 at 7:41 am

You know, I’ll admit that when I first heard what you did for a living, my knee-jerk reaction was to be disgusted. I remember ranting and raving to Heather about how you were a nasty pig. I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I’m sure she could tell you. It was a running joke for a little while what I thought of the whole thing. But then I actually started talking to some of the random Asian guys who’d added me after I added you, discovering that some of them had been your students, and I realized it was different. Some of them seemed to be nice, genuine guys. I’m sure there are some guys who will end up whoring themselves out, but men are men and some men are man-whores. It’s got nothing to do with what you teach them; guys who go in with genuine intentions aren’t going to be “turned into” man-whores. What DOES disgust me is some of the other people in the industry, who only teach you how to get a girl in the bed, not to get her attention, woo her, and keep her. I wish it wasn’t classified in the same industry, because then people wouldn’t be prone to reacting with “fuck this dirty pig, I hate him” before knowing the details.


J.t. Tran August 16, 2011 at 12:18 am

You, missy, are the best! Thanks for giving me, my company, my students- and most importantly of all- Asian men the benefit of the doubt!


Anonymous August 16, 2011 at 7:08 am

As long as it was not find anybody for night.I find girlfriend.she created better person not monster.I want to believe those boys started to walk the road of better man.

If you created better man,it was good for women too.Some people goes as dating coach.some are call himself Pick up artist.I don’t know Pick up artist and dating coach which one attracts students.

I am not sure JT’s company goes which way but as far as on this blog,he is like a big brother for those boys.

Night club is maybe the best venue for practice but I do not think you don’t see girlfriend material type there,You may can meet your type of girl through your hobbies and activities.

Boot camp reminds me sales company’s training.We did practiced talk lines and sales pitches and then cold call for half day etc.Then even night took new employees to the club,company trainer said until you bring a girl here.You can’t back to hotel.I was so mad that time,because I felt it was nothing related to selling mutual funds,stocks and bonds.But now I feel it maybe right.The guy who did the best became best sales guy.


Matthew Johnson August 20, 2011 at 7:19 am

If you can kind of tone down the images of white women on your site, they look like nothing but whores.


Anonymous August 22, 2011 at 7:16 pm


The guys here loves white women.I do not think they look whores.They wear cloth,they don’t pose with sexy lingerie,like other PUA  companys website.

And girls topic here is how to help Asian guy have better relationship with white women.Title it self says Asian man and White woman.They give advice how to build confidence and tell Asian men there are some white women who like Asian men.

Their advice is genuine and authentic they do not teach sleazy tactics.I think you love white women,then came here,right?

Yes,I like white women and this is my honest feeling.Every kind of woman is beautiful but I had to admit I have preference,do you call it white fever Asian man?Unfortunately,Asian men are not that popular among white girls though.


JustGrowBalls September 2, 2011 at 11:18 pm

JerryAsian said, “Unfortunately,Asian men are not that popular among white girls though.”

You mean, Asian men who are LOSERS and HAVE NO BALLS (such as yourself?) are not that popular among girls. It’s really stupid how Asian men like yourself lump all Asians into your pathetic category. I have never had a problem with getting girls of any race, white girls, especially.

So, always remember, JerryAsian: girls don’t date you NOT because you’re Asian, but because you’re a loser with no balls.


Anonymous September 3, 2011 at 2:13 am

Can you prove it?If that majority of Asian guys are popular,you will never see the dating coach who helps mainly Asian guys.So,do you think the those guys who goes to dating advice site is loser?That mean you are loser too.If you have no problem,you have already working as a dating coach or you do not care about date with other race site.If it is not your problem you never come to this site.I am honest,because I have not heard of sex symbol Asian guy.Let’s see Bruce Lee, how long years ago??Can you name the Asian guys name like Brad Pitt or some other Hollywood stars or Rock stars?

If you named K-pop guy or J-rock or those categories guys they are just niche market.Can you name some guys name?

If I said I am good with any women here.I am fxxxxking liar,if I were that good I never found this website.

Mr.JustGrowBalls.If you are dating coach and you can name your name here.I will take you are honest guy.Ok,I had some dates but not consistent like professional guys.Yes,I admit I don’t get laid like a rockstar.I do not have problem to talk unknown people.Yes,I am weak.I bought some of seduction coaching materials.It helped me a lot.But at least I am honest.I have problem,that’s why here.If you have no problem?Why did you find this website?

If you are dating coach,you should reveal your name here.If not I just take you are not that great.If you are great or no problem why did you come here????


Aussie Girl October 5, 2011 at 12:09 pm

This website is brilliant. Keep up the good work. Good on you heather for standing up and being proud to admit you like Asian guys. Its been taboo for too long. You’ve inspired me to be bolder about the fact that I prefer them too. I honestly think JT and the team are giving some good and not sleazy keys that may help shy guys get the girl and end up happy. 


Deuzchland October 26, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Most Asian men who are sating white women are drunken cads.


Howiting April 3, 2012 at 5:30 am

Your wife cheated on you with an Asian man, didn’t she.


Deuzchland October 31, 2011 at 7:54 am

White women who date asian men ARE nothing but whores.


Dragonballevosuckedballs November 12, 2011 at 4:37 am

Deuzchland, are you trolling around again?


Benelliman November 21, 2011 at 5:37 am

You gave me a new perspective on Utah.  Move to Cali.  You won’t have any problems finding Asian guys here lol!  USC, UCLA are good for post grad 😉   


HNH February 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm

You guys should have a bootcamp in SLC, UT. I mean, you have a writer from here for GOSH sakes.

(Although a bootcamp would probably be a good excuse to go to Vegas for a weekend.)


Bethany April 4, 2012 at 11:22 pm

When my boyfriend showed me this website, I instantly had a negative reaction.  I got the impression it would be some weird fetish site with a plethora of yellow dick and fake white tits–Oh how I was horribly wrong!  I started reading the articles and people’s responses and I can’t describe how supportive I now feel.  JT, this company doesn’t even fit as a seduction company; the work done here is more along the lines of Life Coaching.  You and your coworkers are amazing and are doing a great thing. I know I love my Asian man with all my heart and I want other girls to find one of their own 🙂


JT Tran April 4, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Hey Bethany, thanks so much for the kind words! Can I ask, was your first impression negative because of the layout of the website? or was it a preconception that you had automatically coming in? And I agree, it is more about life coaching, but PUA and Seduction Industry is the business that we’re in. We gotta sell the sizzle so they can get the steak!


Bethany April 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm

I don’t think it is the layout, although I do think the layout needs work. I understand it is supposed to be a magazine but seems a bit out dated or just a bit off, maybe the color scheme? Aesthetically it could look better.  I think it was the url, Asianmanwhitewoman just sounds like a fetish site.  After the page loaded and the layout appeared, it confirmed my suspicions (even my confirmation was false).  My point is, I had to dig for all the heartfelt information– I understand the draw to make this page attractive and sexy (which is necessary) but I think the way it is now detracts from the message.  My suggestion is to make the site that way it has less of a negative vibe and hire a website designer to “modern” up the site–  is a good example, it has multiple writers as well and the layout is easier to navigate.  I honestly think something as simple as a color scheme change will vamp up the website, and the logo needs to be re-designed. Is there two logos? There is the AMWW magazine and the other, which one is the right one?

Keep the sexy on the magazine for sure, sizzle away! But un-sexy the URL. Also, modernize the site and in total I think you will become more successful! 


Jason Sung Won Cho May 31, 2012 at 1:19 am

Wow… I just read this article. 
Wish I knew about this earlier…


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